In order to keep our existing FAQ as current as possible, we’ve moved any outdated answers into a separate archive page. This text remains accessible to any fans who are curious at how the situation around the cancellation and campaign has evolved.
+ Q: If it’s not moving to Disney+ right away, then why are we writing to Disney?
A: In December 2018 The Hollywood Reporter posted an interview with Kevin Mayer, the chairman of Walt Disney direct-to-consumer and international divisions - in other words, the man who will be overseeing all of the Disney-owned streaming platforms, including Disney+ and Hulu. He had this to say about the Marvel Netflix shows:
Would you consider reviving the Marvel shows that Netflix canceled?
They are very high-quality shows. We haven't yet discussed that, but I would say that's a possibility.
This confirms that, at the time of cancellation, there were no plans in the works to move anything to Disney+. However, a high ranking Disney exec stating on the record that there’s a possibility of Marvel Netflix shows being revived on a Disney-owned streaming service is incredibly significant. It reaffirms our need to continue communicating as a united fanbase that we want to see this happen with THIS cast and creative team, and that we are willing to wait for it!
+ Q: I heard a rumor that Hulu is going to revive the Netflix shows. Is this true?
A: In a February 2019 interview with TheWrap during TCA (a network press event for the Television Critics Association), Craig Erwich, the head of Hulu's Originals division, said this when he was asked about the possibility of Hulu Originals reviving the Netflix shows:
“Marvel has a ton of titles we’d be interested in,” he said, when asked by TheWrap if Hulu would have interest in reviving one of those series. “It kind of just depends on when they’re ready, [and] who, most importantly, is going to be behind these things.”
While this is far from any definitive confirmation Hulu can or will follow through at this point, the fact that Hulu is even saying this on record is a positive sign. Now that the Disney-Fox merger is complete, and Disney has been granted 100% ownership over Hulu's operations, there is good reason to believe they will continue with their plans to use the platform as a destination for their mature content. There was also a recent announcement of 5 brand new animated series, and 2 more live action series in the works with Marvel Television, which at the very least paves the way for a continued partnership post-merger. One thing is for sure: we will do our part to continue making it known to Hulu that there is a tremendous fanbase ready to bring their dollars to the subscription service that Saves Daredevil.
+ Q: Why are we writing to Hulu? They’re not international so I won’t be able to watch the show in my country.
A: We have been targeting Hulu as an option for this campaign because once the Disney - Fox merger is complete, Disney will own a majority stake in the platform, with the possibility of 100% control in the future:
Hulu began as a collaboration among media titans Disney, Comcast, Fox, and AT&T, which acquired its stake through the acquisition of Time Warner. Now Disney is preparing to acquire Fox, which would give it a 60% stake in the streaming service, and if both Comcast and AT&T sell their respective positions to Disney, giving it 100% control over Hulu, it could become a premiere movie-streaming powerhouse that challenges Netflix's preeminence. [Source]
Disney has also previously released information about Hulu being their target platform for rated-R content since Disney+ will be staying strictly PG-13. With this in mind, Hulu becomes a more attractive possibility as a future home for the current version of the show.
There will be no R-rated films [on Disney+], and the programming will be consistent with the Disney brand. The R-rated stuff will go on Hulu. The plan now is to leave the various Marvel series where they are… [Source]
We understand that non-U.S. fans may be hesitant about Hulu as a platform due to its lack of availability internationally. While it's true that Hulu, at this time, is U.S. only, Disney will likely be working to take the platform international in the next few years. As stated by Kevin Mayer in his Hollywood Reporter interview:
How does Hulu fit into your international plans?
We would like to have an international trilogy of services where it makes sense. We want a sports service like we have here; we want a general entertainment service, which would be Hulu, in different places around the world where we don't have that; and we want to have Disney around the world. An international rollout of Hulu would be something that we'd be very interested in, and we're talking to Hulu about that now.
As it currently stands, people in other countries may still have access to Hulu content through international licensing deals with other local streaming platforms and television networks. For example, two popular Hulu properties - The Handmaid’s Tale and Marvel’s Runaways - air on HBO Nordic in Sweden. Even if the international rollout of Hulu does not happen immediately, it’s possible it will have started by the time Disney is able to take action again on the fate of the show.
+ Q: I heard Marvel Studios doesn’t want to work with Marvel Television. Is that true?
A: We can’t 100% verify this information, but industry insiders and critics have spoken about some sort of feud between the two divisions at Marvel.
I should clarify. The Marvel shows for Disney+ are being produced by Marvel movie execs, who do not like or get along with the Marvel TV execs who made Dardevil et al. Technically, they COULD make a Luke Cage show a few years down the line. They just don’t want to.— Alan Sepinwall (@sepinwall) November 30, 2018
+ Q: Stop panicking. It’s clearly moving to Disney+.
A: Let’s clear something up - the oft-cited factoid about Disney pulling its content off of Netflix in 2019 was for the movies, not television. This is worth mentioning because it’s something we’ve seen cited often as proof that the shows are going straight back to Disney. But this is just the public conflating two different agreements Disney had with Netflix.
More importantly, the [Disney move] will not affect the Marvel Netflix shows. The waters of the entertainment business can be muddy, and contracts hard to figure out for the average viewer, but rest assured that the Disney theatrical distribution deal and the Marvel Television development deal are two separate things. The original Disney distribution deal with Netflix, in a nutshell, simply gave Netflix exclusive streaming rights for all of Disney's theatrical releases, along with Disney-owned and produced television shows from its channels. [Source]
And as popular as the Disney+ theory is, the public has been given no firm indication by either Netflix or Marvel / Disney this is the plan at all. Reporting over the past year from mainstream press, industry publications, and insiders has in fact reflected the unlikelihood of such an occurrence, suggesting the Disney+ platform will stay family friendly.
Here’s how it will work. The OTT platform, whose price point wasn’t mentioned, will start with a domestic service only, and then expand overseas. There will be no R-rated films, and the programming will be consistent with the Disney brand. The R-rated stuff will go on Hulu. The plan now is to leave the various Marvel series where they are, which means Netflix will hang onto its superhero inventory. [Source]
+ Q: Why are you blaming Netflix? Disney is behind this. They won't allow Netflix to make any more seasons.
A: Disney may be involved in production, but they are not allowed to call the shots on renewal or cancellation.
Unlike the movie studio, which can announce a Captain Marvel movie will be out in 2019, the television studio will always be beholden to our networks, and so if our networks want another season of Iron Fist, we’re ready to go. We’re just waiting for the answer. The show’s been out of a week.
Loeb directly addresses the nature of cancellations again in a 1/19/2019 interview with EW after the release of season 2 of Marvel's The Punisher (spoilers in the link if you haven't watched TPS2):
It’s been reported that the decisions to cancel those shows came as a surprise, after writers’ rooms had already been assembled. Was that really case for all three?
LOEB: I’d rather not get into the specifics, other than we were and continue to be extremely disappointed by the decision that the network made. But when you’re in the game, that’s all you can do. Everyone has a favorite television show that has been canceled on every single network, and we just happen to be at that place right now.
Netflix has also unequivocally come out in regards to their power to cancel these shows.
The news came from Netflix’s Chief Content Officer, Ted Sarandos, who’s probably better equipped to discuss the future of the Netflix/Marvel universe than anyone else (besides maybe CEO Reed Hastings). Responding to a question about the future of those shows, Sarandos offered a reassuring, if blunt, response.
“Those shows are for us to cancel,” he said, “and we’re super happy with their performance so far.”
Furthermore, it's questionable what degree of knowledge Disney could have had regarding some of their more popular television properties getting canned, as it seems Marvel execs were as stunned as the producers when they heard the show had been canceled.
Had a last lunch yesterday with the Daredevil writers. Sushi provided by our Captain, @erikoleson. Marvel execs there too, just as stunned as we were. More than lunch, really: a wake. A show gets cancelled, all those characters we love die. Why I hate my job. Why I love it, too.— Sam Ernst (@havensam) December 1, 2018
A December 2018 interview with Amy Rutberg on Inverse.com confirms much of the same:
“We had heard rumors we would start production as early as February 2019,” she says. “It’s a little unusual to be that far ahead in the planning and cancel the show, which makes me think Netflix was laboring over whether or not to cancel it. My guess was it was not an easy decision.”
When asked where she thought Season 4 might have been headed, Rutberg reveals that the cast and crew all assumed Daredevil would run for at least five seasons, giving the show a chance to explore a new villain before potentially returning to Kingpin for a final showdown.
It does seem that something turned sour in the Marvel - Netflix relationship in the fall, one that kicked off Luke Cage's abrupt dismissal, and put Daredevil on the track of cancellation too. In the exclusive Deadline article announcing Luke Cage's untimely demise (on the same day as DDS3's premiere):
A writers’ room under showrunner Cheo Hodari Coker had been working for around six months producing scripts and taking notes from Netflix and Marvel. As actors including lead Mike Colter remained under contract, a formal Season 3 order was considered almost a foregone conclusion by all concerned. [...] It eventually escalated to behind-the-scenes turmoil in the past two days and demands for changes in creative regime. With Marvel and Netflix seemingly intractable and on different sides of the disputes, a harsh cancelation became the only viable exit strategy, it appears.